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Red Woodson

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NPC fees hike planned to make citadels look better
« on: March 03, 2016, 04:20:30 PM »
So, with the upcoming carrier changes I've been keeping a closer eye on eve's development recently.  While the details on that have been lacking, something else caught my eye.  Not knowing how well all of you watch the eve forums, I thought I'd share.
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#1 - 2016-03-03 13:52:34 UTC  | Edited by: CCP Ytterbium

Hello people, Team Game of Drones is having a look at the Citadel structures services (reprocessing, clones, market, compression, offices) and we would like to make a few changes that will impact NPC taxes. The goal of such changes is to give more flexibility for Citadel owners to make a profit when charging their services to the public, while making sure they are profitable enough to compete versus NPC station services.


Offices in Citadels: unlike renting offices in NPC stations, there will be no office limit in Citadels. As long as you are granted access by the owner there will be no limitation about creating an office there. Office rental will be a flat fee, fixed by the owner. The fee will not have a NPC tax of any sort.

Medical clones: we are thinking of keeping the 100,000 ISK fee for changing the home station in a Citadel, just like NPC stations. As long as you have access you will never face an artificial limit to medical clones in Citadels.

Jump Clones: current price for installing jump clones in NPC stations is around 100,000 ISK. We are planning to increase that amount to 5m ISK to install a jump clone in NPC stations. That price will also be payable anytime a clone is left behind in a NPC station - so, if you jump clone away from a NPC station from previously established jump clones you will still pay that price. Jump Clones installed in Citadels will not have any NPC taxes, but the owner can charge his own pricing for the service. We also want to remove the maximum limit of jump clones for Citadels: like Citadel offices, your alliance, corporation or public customers will never be denied usage of this service if you grant them access in the first place.

Reprocessing: we are thinking of changing the way reprocessing taxes work. Currently, the taxes are expressed in materials, so if you get 100 units of tritanium the system would take 5 for a 5% tax. We would like to change that tax to be payable in ISK only to make it simpler for structure owners to get their fees. This would apply to NPC stations as well and still be reduced by your standings tower the NPC corporation owning the station. In addition, the tax will be properly logged into the transactions part of the journal. Reprocessing taxes inside a Citadel will be left entirely to the owner, no NPC tax will be enforced.

Compression: after internal discussion we are planning to merge this service with the reprocessing service module, so you won't need to install two modules in your Citadel to get this functionality. Compression is not going to be taxed because there is no NPC counterpart to compete with (only available in Starbases at the moment).

Market: markets currently have two taxes, transaction's tax, applied for sold items, and broker's fee for non immediate orders, which are set at 1.5% and 1% respectively. To create an environment more competitive for Citadels, we plan on increasing the transaction tax to 2.5% and the broker's fee to 5-6%. Players trading in citadels will still receive the transaction tax, but the broker's fee will be at the complete discretion of the owner. To avoid confusion for the owner, the broker relations skill will not affect player set broker's fee in Citadels.

Contracts: while Contracts will not be available in Citadels for the first release, the transaction's tax and borker's fee will also go up by the same amount than markets as mentioned above.



Please remember those are still work in progress changes (especially the market broker's fee tax amount), so please use constructive feedback in your replies.

A few things jumped out at me:
*5 million fee just to use a jump clone!
*500-600% increase in broker fees
*standings not applying to broker fees in citadel, which is going to cause lots of confusion when comparing fees between NPC stations and citadels.
*reprocessing tax going to be an isk sink rather than mineral sink.

Anyway, just thought I'd share.

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Re: NPC fees hike planned to make citadels look better
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2016, 12:42:43 PM »
I'm OK with this.  Eve needs more isk sinks and incentive to make things more player driven.

Also, Efron needs a citadel :)

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Re: NPC fees hike planned to make citadels look better
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 12:57:35 PM »
I'm OK with this.  Eve needs more isk sinks and incentive to make things more player driven.

Also, Efron needs a citadel :)
they can't be used as courier contract destinations which rules out a lot of actual usage for now

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Re: NPC fees hike planned to make citadels look better
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 07:24:49 PM »
I'm OK with this.  Eve needs more isk sinks and incentive to make things more player driven.

Also, Efron needs a citadel :)
they can't be used as courier contract destinations which rules out a lot of actual usage for now
It really does feel like CCP are rushing these things out rather than taking their time and being then right to start with.  No contract functionality, needing massive sticks to drive players to them from existing mechanics before the citadels are fully functional, no(released) plans to cover the functionality of small pos.  The planned cap ship changes feel similarly like there's no cohesive plan.  Oh well, what else isn't new.  This is CCP we're talking about.

Though apparently they did back off the JC changes to only be 900,000 rather than 5 mil, there's still the question of what happens to a JC in a destroyed citadel.
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